Sometimes we look at the comments section on social media and we think that can’t be a real person surely? The things they are saying are so poorly informed, so racist or misogynist, blatantly wrong or just obvious lies.
Nick, calling out racist policies is not racism. The problem is that you cannot see the difference between institutionalised racist supported by a $372m racist propaganda budget and someone saying this is inequitable.
Trev, the provisions under Three waters to provide Maori with a seat at the table, a role consistent with the Treaty is not a racist policy, the fact you think it is speaks volumes.
You have just proved my point - you have not read the legislation, just things ABOUT the legislation. READ IT - it is a huge pile of nonsense that will cost billions to implement without fixing a single piece of pipe.
It has taken me weeks to read all the proposed legislation under He Puapua - have you read that document ? Nope you would not have read that either.
They are not implementing OPINIONS of the legislation, they are implementing the LEGISLATION ITSELF - it is totally undemocratic.
How could it be undemocratic? They were a popularly elected government they can do whatever they want. God knows the people you no doubt support do when they are in power.
In the past, each party would produce a "manifesto" which was what they planned to do if/when they got into power. You will clearly remember NOTHING WHATSOEVER in the Labour manifesto about anything mentioned in He Puapua, despite it having been prepared by that time and circulated amongst the Labour leadership - this is known.
Like a rabbit out of a hat, no sooner as Labour were elected, then they came up with all this legislation that was so far-fetched that the general population took that attitude that "it can't be true" because it was so unbelievable - it still is unbelievable, except it is true and in writing. Did you read the local government takeover plan released last week ? No you did not. I only know one other person that has actually read the whole thing - it is nothing short of a coup by stealth.
On the day that this council takeover policy was published the TV news reported on the prime minister being in Antarctica. This is MAJOR POLITICAL REFORM and the only thing they mentioned was that it was proposed to lower the voting age to 16, NOTHING ABOUT THE REST OF THE LEGISLATION.
One of the other pieces of legislation was the Kris Faafoi media fund - read the thing. It basically says that the taxpayer will pay media companies from this $55m fund as long as the content conforms to specific criteria - all Pro labour, pro-Maori, pro-green. Free to air TV has turned into nothing short of a party political broadcast ALL DAY.
Then to ensure they can spread their propaganda through to the election, they then topped it up with another $372m. Read the terms of the contestable fund and explain to me how this guarantees objective reporting ? Not a chance.
Whilst everyone is "asleep" watching TV and trashing anyone like me who says "hang on a minute" democracy is being completely usurped. You will wake up one day with your bills doubling and your quality of life destroyed wondering how this happened whilst the "Maori Elite" will be vacationing somewhere at the taxpayers expense.
I am not taking a selfish position here, I am old and after 40 years working I have enough money to keep going even without work, but I am not scared of hard work, even as an old man, so I do well and I am not concerned for me personally.
What does worry me, is that like many people, my kids will have to leave NZ, for a country without such a racist political system. It is such a shame. You just have to listen to the syrupy words of Jacinda, even when questioned by one of the well paid sycophants Jack Tame about "democracy being one person one vote" and the answer? “overly simplistic” really Jacinda, when did we agree to changing democracy Jacinda ? Ah yes, that was not on your manifesto was it !!!!
Since you're here Trev, and claiming to be not racist, would you care to explain why you use the term "Part-Maori" repeatedly, for example "thinking-up and organising to take 50 disadvantaged kids from South Auckland flying - yes the vast majority were part-Maori."?
Because we all know there are no Maori left in New Zealand. Most people who claim to be Maori are way less than half. I once had a debate with a blonde, blue eyed girl who was ranting on about "our people" so I asked " are you Swedish ?" no Maori she says. Clearly being Maori is an opinion, an opinion I do not share.
There are so many legislated benefits to being considered Maori, that I can see the attraction. No don't ask me to list them, there are thousands. I picked up on this during Covid when I tried to get on a course - only for Maori - and a grant - only for Maori and so it went.
Calling people Part Maori is reminding any reader that this is a choice, just like any belief system. We now have politicians calling people out for not being Maori enough WTF is that ? I do not know or care what race anyone is, I judge them by their character, sorry if that is an outdated notion.
Today your entitlements in NZ are entirely dependent on who one of your ancestors were - there is no other words for this other than RACIST.
If my view is counter to wokeness and propaganda, then so be it. And if you think it is not woke propaganda - read the Kris Faafoi media funding rules - I bet you have not read that either aye ? It shameless racism using taxpayers money to fund a racist political agenda.
"We all know there are no Maori left in New Zealand" - and there you have it Trev. You could not have been any more racist if you'd stood in front of your lodge in a KKK outfit next to a burning cross whipping your employees who you had forced to wear black face.
Why is that ? It is a genealogical fact. The same people who call out "your ancestors stole from our ancestors" quite forgetting that they have European ancestors, but it seems for no factual reason, other than the trendy belief system, that you can pick and choose if you are Maori or European - handy aye. You can claim all the benefits and still get all your white privilege at the same time.
Trev thinks he knows his history. He clearly does not. He also clearly does not understand his white privilege. His views appear to be all driven by the fear of losing something he "owns" rather than an ability to welcome a different approach that benefits everyone in our community (including him).
Yes. Trev certainly thinks his view of NZ , and Te Tiriti history is the only view. He says he is not racist, but if he ever bothered to do some self reflection he might realise others see him differently. His "communism" reference re Jacinda Ardern is ignorant. He is yet another person who has does not have the ability to differentiat between Communism, and Socialism.
Not only differentiate but understand what socialism or communism are and how countries who have socialist policies are happier . Scandinavian countries. Re communism: when seeing comments like Trev I direct them to check the Israeli kibutz which are based on communism. Plusxwe all benefit from socialist policies : 8 hrs working day , retirement at ( in socialism ) 60, now put up by corporatists to 65, Nacts planning to lift it to 67, sick leave and holiday leave paid, free education, housing , equal pay , equal rights. I don't understand what Treati versiin is he talking about. Maoris would have never give up their rights. French weren't attacking anyone.
There are several accounts where Maori massacred the French and ate them (so were expecting reprisals) There is a specific account regarding Ngare Raumati tribe. On one occasion, the French reprisals killed a reported 250 Maori. This is not a large number, but in context of the small population, very significant.
There were similar altercations with the British in early days of first meetings, but the fact that they sat down and agreed a treaty, suggests that relations improved a lot by 1840 when Maori preferred to deal with the British. They did not HAVE to make the treaty, they WANTED IT because of the huge number of benefits that went with it.
Maori did not "give up" it was a peace treaty courted by Maori, because they wanted the protection of British law and soldiers and secure tenure of their land when at the time "utu" was commonplace, with no assurity of anything - they could be attacked at any time, killed and eaten by a rival tribe, this was "business as usual" prior to colonisation. This is a tiny extract of NZ history that is not disputed. It just does not match woke rhetoric.
The more you read, the more you understand that is was messy and a series of one, step forward, one step backwards. What is absolutely clear was that it was not an initiative from the British to "take over" anything. It was a practical solution to try and stop everyone killing each other when the country was being settled first by traders and later by immigrants and the Crown needed to "do something". Both the Maori and the British wanted to keep the French away. You will recall of course this was not long after the British/French Napoleonic wars (1803 – 1815).
Go read some detailed books on NZ history, it is very interesting and bears no relation to the BS that is being spread these days that passes for "history".
The terms of the treaty are the Maori version dated 6th February 1840. No other document means anything in law and it is quite clear that they gave up sovereignty in return for protection and kept all their land, which many promptly traded for European goodles, just like generations do today.
The version of the Treaty of Waitangi in Maori signed on 6th February 1940. The 1975 version was "made up" and was NOT the one that was signed. This new version was created by Matiu Rata and his mates. They then passed the Treaty of Waitangi act based on this false verison and then started the Waitangi tribunal claims all over again.
The treaty that created a single nation for 135 years was effectively ignored and we are now being overtaken with opinion rather than fact which is creating a racist divide. It is that BS that I am calling out - that does not make me a racist when I point this out.
Well Janis, you do know Jacinda was leader of the youth communist party ? This is not in dispute by anyone that I know of. Her policies of heavy borrowing and government handouts, is socialism on steroids and is fuelling rampant inflation - noticed prices lately ?
As for NZ history, I have read heaps. Perhaps you should read the original Treaty in Maori as signed in 1840 (not the 1975 made up version) and tell me exactly where is says we are not one nation of all peoples under one crown.
Trev - now now that would be the Youth Socialist Party, you do understand the difference between Communism and Socialism don't you Trev? Can I hand you a spade down there Trev?
Hello Nick, If you keep deleting my replies, there is no point to your taunts. I was hoping for a civil discussion based on FACTS. You are just trashing me. That is why no common understanding is ever reached and the nation is becoming polarized - divide and rule seems to be working.
I have not deleted any of your replies, only BFD video links, as I mentioned below I am not having that Whale Oil garbage on this site, you are welcome to post it elsewhere from an account of your choosing :)
I do know white privilege. I had the privilege of being very poor and being told to expect nothing I had not worked for. Compare this with the mentality of entitlement that pervades today. I am entitled to nothing and expect nothing I have not worked for. I know this is a very old fashioned view these days, but I do not apologize for it. It was my privilege to be brought up with that mindset.
Nope - I have read the legislation being implemented - you should have a read, your toes would curl. If it does get implemented, the current inflation will seem like a blip.
No comments deleted, only videos I'm not prepared to have linked to on this page. The fact that you view Cameron Slater's horrible poison is sadly unsurprising at this point.
Personally I disengage from people who hold this sort of distorted world view , as an aside that Aussie Dick on Fox News regarding the Six 60 Poster was just a disgusting pathetic asshole.
I have been whittling out and discarding the Trevs from my FB friends list, if nothing else FB reveals ones true colours, always a great read Nick, cheers m8
yep. too many. have heard the same from some who have never heard of Don Brash. His words have been spreading unchecked out there in the margins where extremist individualism rules. need more of this out there: https://www.facebook.com/renewsnz/videos/331639327369571/
I've arrived via David Slack, and very happy I am to be here. Enough duck-shoving, lolly-gagging, and quietly fading into the background. I have renewed my resolve to politely confront these racists, sexists etc. It is amazing how LONG their responses can be. If one refuted them, point by point, one could die of the old age which is advancing on one anyway! I tried a gentle but evidenced based response to a load of old cobblers about Celtic people having built stone walls in the North Island and was rewarded with an epic response. Mad as snakes. You'd think they'd have noticed my name. Thank you for the lovely bit of John Clarke.
Welcome Lynne. They are masters of the Copy and Paste responses, cut snakes instead. Thank goodness for people like John Clarke and David Slack, and for phrases like lolly-gagging.
Trev (and many others) are focused on minute detail but forget the BIG THING. Yes, the bit about Maori owning and occupying this entire country before Pakeha "settlers" took it over.
i feel that he does shoot himself in the foot somewhat with his flawed reasoning. I think you can tell him what your reasons are. That way it gives him some static in his echo chamber.
Billionaire Iwi ? When the bailout of South Canterbury Finance surpassed the entire "compensation" paid to Maori, when even the annual turnover of Telecom beats it by a country mile...
Wow just wow, Trev your convoluted diatribe really did my head in. Thanks though for letting me know Te Tiriti was rewritten in 1975 (sarc), talk about a revisionist history writer . Nick you really lit a fuse right there 😁
ive had an experience of trying to discuss issues like this over a period of time with an employer. he was so nice that it took me a while to realise that nothing was being understood except from his extremist individualistic world view. it was like working for Don Brash. they insisted of course that they have love for me as his version of christianity required but could not see that love without respect is patronising. we parted ways because our discussions were becoming more and more heated. i am wary of getting into that sort of situation again. but find hope in this writing. thank you Nick. these people are real and offensive and harmful and a bit brick wall-y. we need to do more challenging. but how? i found a couple of articles yesterday that talk about strategy in the face of strident gibberish. including them here in case anyone else finds them interesting.
I read few NZ Hystory books , knew about the killings but at those times they were always doing it. Akaroa was French . I never read about French threatening ...I may need to go back reread : Keith Sinclair books are good. Sorry about your experience: I have a friend like this guy and no amount of facts would convince her Act are neo fascists ...we argue all the time, she threatens to cut me off and I laugh and tell her she is soft and spitting the dummy !
Trev (and many others) are focused on minute detail but forget the BIG THING. Yes, the bit about Maori owning and occupying this entire country before Pakeha "settlers" took it over.
Well, he’s certainly not part-racist, is he?
Very nicely put ;)
Nick, calling out racist policies is not racism. The problem is that you cannot see the difference between institutionalised racist supported by a $372m racist propaganda budget and someone saying this is inequitable.
Trev, the provisions under Three waters to provide Maori with a seat at the table, a role consistent with the Treaty is not a racist policy, the fact you think it is speaks volumes.
You have just proved my point - you have not read the legislation, just things ABOUT the legislation. READ IT - it is a huge pile of nonsense that will cost billions to implement without fixing a single piece of pipe.
It has taken me weeks to read all the proposed legislation under He Puapua - have you read that document ? Nope you would not have read that either.
They are not implementing OPINIONS of the legislation, they are implementing the LEGISLATION ITSELF - it is totally undemocratic.
How could it be undemocratic? They were a popularly elected government they can do whatever they want. God knows the people you no doubt support do when they are in power.
Here is a link posted separately in case you intend to delete this - I don't know what you do, or do not "allow"
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2207/S00214/prime-minister-refuses-to-acknowledge-one-person-one-vote.htm
Ha - you have hit the nail on the head !
In the past, each party would produce a "manifesto" which was what they planned to do if/when they got into power. You will clearly remember NOTHING WHATSOEVER in the Labour manifesto about anything mentioned in He Puapua, despite it having been prepared by that time and circulated amongst the Labour leadership - this is known.
Like a rabbit out of a hat, no sooner as Labour were elected, then they came up with all this legislation that was so far-fetched that the general population took that attitude that "it can't be true" because it was so unbelievable - it still is unbelievable, except it is true and in writing. Did you read the local government takeover plan released last week ? No you did not. I only know one other person that has actually read the whole thing - it is nothing short of a coup by stealth.
On the day that this council takeover policy was published the TV news reported on the prime minister being in Antarctica. This is MAJOR POLITICAL REFORM and the only thing they mentioned was that it was proposed to lower the voting age to 16, NOTHING ABOUT THE REST OF THE LEGISLATION.
One of the other pieces of legislation was the Kris Faafoi media fund - read the thing. It basically says that the taxpayer will pay media companies from this $55m fund as long as the content conforms to specific criteria - all Pro labour, pro-Maori, pro-green. Free to air TV has turned into nothing short of a party political broadcast ALL DAY.
Then to ensure they can spread their propaganda through to the election, they then topped it up with another $372m. Read the terms of the contestable fund and explain to me how this guarantees objective reporting ? Not a chance.
Whilst everyone is "asleep" watching TV and trashing anyone like me who says "hang on a minute" democracy is being completely usurped. You will wake up one day with your bills doubling and your quality of life destroyed wondering how this happened whilst the "Maori Elite" will be vacationing somewhere at the taxpayers expense.
I am not taking a selfish position here, I am old and after 40 years working I have enough money to keep going even without work, but I am not scared of hard work, even as an old man, so I do well and I am not concerned for me personally.
What does worry me, is that like many people, my kids will have to leave NZ, for a country without such a racist political system. It is such a shame. You just have to listen to the syrupy words of Jacinda, even when questioned by one of the well paid sycophants Jack Tame about "democracy being one person one vote" and the answer? “overly simplistic” really Jacinda, when did we agree to changing democracy Jacinda ? Ah yes, that was not on your manifesto was it !!!!
Since you're here Trev, and claiming to be not racist, would you care to explain why you use the term "Part-Maori" repeatedly, for example "thinking-up and organising to take 50 disadvantaged kids from South Auckland flying - yes the vast majority were part-Maori."?
Because we all know there are no Maori left in New Zealand. Most people who claim to be Maori are way less than half. I once had a debate with a blonde, blue eyed girl who was ranting on about "our people" so I asked " are you Swedish ?" no Maori she says. Clearly being Maori is an opinion, an opinion I do not share.
There are so many legislated benefits to being considered Maori, that I can see the attraction. No don't ask me to list them, there are thousands. I picked up on this during Covid when I tried to get on a course - only for Maori - and a grant - only for Maori and so it went.
Calling people Part Maori is reminding any reader that this is a choice, just like any belief system. We now have politicians calling people out for not being Maori enough WTF is that ? I do not know or care what race anyone is, I judge them by their character, sorry if that is an outdated notion.
Today your entitlements in NZ are entirely dependent on who one of your ancestors were - there is no other words for this other than RACIST.
If my view is counter to wokeness and propaganda, then so be it. And if you think it is not woke propaganda - read the Kris Faafoi media funding rules - I bet you have not read that either aye ? It shameless racism using taxpayers money to fund a racist political agenda.
"We all know there are no Maori left in New Zealand" - and there you have it Trev. You could not have been any more racist if you'd stood in front of your lodge in a KKK outfit next to a burning cross whipping your employees who you had forced to wear black face.
Why is that ? It is a genealogical fact. The same people who call out "your ancestors stole from our ancestors" quite forgetting that they have European ancestors, but it seems for no factual reason, other than the trendy belief system, that you can pick and choose if you are Maori or European - handy aye. You can claim all the benefits and still get all your white privilege at the same time.
This is racism Nick, not my racism, yours.
Full-blooded, I'd say
Trev thinks he knows his history. He clearly does not. He also clearly does not understand his white privilege. His views appear to be all driven by the fear of losing something he "owns" rather than an ability to welcome a different approach that benefits everyone in our community (including him).
Yes. Trev certainly thinks his view of NZ , and Te Tiriti history is the only view. He says he is not racist, but if he ever bothered to do some self reflection he might realise others see him differently. His "communism" reference re Jacinda Ardern is ignorant. He is yet another person who has does not have the ability to differentiat between Communism, and Socialism.
Not only differentiate but understand what socialism or communism are and how countries who have socialist policies are happier . Scandinavian countries. Re communism: when seeing comments like Trev I direct them to check the Israeli kibutz which are based on communism. Plusxwe all benefit from socialist policies : 8 hrs working day , retirement at ( in socialism ) 60, now put up by corporatists to 65, Nacts planning to lift it to 67, sick leave and holiday leave paid, free education, housing , equal pay , equal rights. I don't understand what Treati versiin is he talking about. Maoris would have never give up their rights. French weren't attacking anyone.
Hello Mihaela,
There are several accounts where Maori massacred the French and ate them (so were expecting reprisals) There is a specific account regarding Ngare Raumati tribe. On one occasion, the French reprisals killed a reported 250 Maori. This is not a large number, but in context of the small population, very significant.
There were similar altercations with the British in early days of first meetings, but the fact that they sat down and agreed a treaty, suggests that relations improved a lot by 1840 when Maori preferred to deal with the British. They did not HAVE to make the treaty, they WANTED IT because of the huge number of benefits that went with it.
Maori did not "give up" it was a peace treaty courted by Maori, because they wanted the protection of British law and soldiers and secure tenure of their land when at the time "utu" was commonplace, with no assurity of anything - they could be attacked at any time, killed and eaten by a rival tribe, this was "business as usual" prior to colonisation. This is a tiny extract of NZ history that is not disputed. It just does not match woke rhetoric.
The more you read, the more you understand that is was messy and a series of one, step forward, one step backwards. What is absolutely clear was that it was not an initiative from the British to "take over" anything. It was a practical solution to try and stop everyone killing each other when the country was being settled first by traders and later by immigrants and the Crown needed to "do something". Both the Maori and the British wanted to keep the French away. You will recall of course this was not long after the British/French Napoleonic wars (1803 – 1815).
Go read some detailed books on NZ history, it is very interesting and bears no relation to the BS that is being spread these days that passes for "history".
The terms of the treaty are the Maori version dated 6th February 1840. No other document means anything in law and it is quite clear that they gave up sovereignty in return for protection and kept all their land, which many promptly traded for European goodles, just like generations do today.
Regards
Trevor
The version of the Treaty of Waitangi in Maori signed on 6th February 1940. The 1975 version was "made up" and was NOT the one that was signed. This new version was created by Matiu Rata and his mates. They then passed the Treaty of Waitangi act based on this false verison and then started the Waitangi tribunal claims all over again.
The treaty that created a single nation for 135 years was effectively ignored and we are now being overtaken with opinion rather than fact which is creating a racist divide. It is that BS that I am calling out - that does not make me a racist when I point this out.
Well Janis, you do know Jacinda was leader of the youth communist party ? This is not in dispute by anyone that I know of. Her policies of heavy borrowing and government handouts, is socialism on steroids and is fuelling rampant inflation - noticed prices lately ?
As for NZ history, I have read heaps. Perhaps you should read the original Treaty in Maori as signed in 1840 (not the 1975 made up version) and tell me exactly where is says we are not one nation of all peoples under one crown.
Trev - now now that would be the Youth Socialist Party, you do understand the difference between Communism and Socialism don't you Trev? Can I hand you a spade down there Trev?
USSR stands for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics - are you saying that they were not communists ? Really ?
Yes Comrade
Hello Nick, If you keep deleting my replies, there is no point to your taunts. I was hoping for a civil discussion based on FACTS. You are just trashing me. That is why no common understanding is ever reached and the nation is becoming polarized - divide and rule seems to be working.
I have not deleted any of your replies, only BFD video links, as I mentioned below I am not having that Whale Oil garbage on this site, you are welcome to post it elsewhere from an account of your choosing :)
I do know white privilege. I had the privilege of being very poor and being told to expect nothing I had not worked for. Compare this with the mentality of entitlement that pervades today. I am entitled to nothing and expect nothing I have not worked for. I know this is a very old fashioned view these days, but I do not apologize for it. It was my privilege to be brought up with that mindset.
Nope - I have read the legislation being implemented - you should have a read, your toes would curl. If it does get implemented, the current inflation will seem like a blip.
Is that you Trev? Anything more to say beyond posting BFD clips? Sorry I had to delete those, no Whale Oil garbage allowed here.
Well I would if you did not keep deleting my comments !
No comments deleted, only videos I'm not prepared to have linked to on this page. The fact that you view Cameron Slater's horrible poison is sadly unsurprising at this point.
Personally I disengage from people who hold this sort of distorted world view , as an aside that Aussie Dick on Fox News regarding the Six 60 Poster was just a disgusting pathetic asshole.
I have been whittling out and discarding the Trevs from my FB friends list, if nothing else FB reveals ones true colours, always a great read Nick, cheers m8
yep. too many. have heard the same from some who have never heard of Don Brash. His words have been spreading unchecked out there in the margins where extremist individualism rules. need more of this out there: https://www.facebook.com/renewsnz/videos/331639327369571/
and more of your writings.....
I've arrived via David Slack, and very happy I am to be here. Enough duck-shoving, lolly-gagging, and quietly fading into the background. I have renewed my resolve to politely confront these racists, sexists etc. It is amazing how LONG their responses can be. If one refuted them, point by point, one could die of the old age which is advancing on one anyway! I tried a gentle but evidenced based response to a load of old cobblers about Celtic people having built stone walls in the North Island and was rewarded with an epic response. Mad as snakes. You'd think they'd have noticed my name. Thank you for the lovely bit of John Clarke.
Welcome Lynne. They are masters of the Copy and Paste responses, cut snakes instead. Thank goodness for people like John Clarke and David Slack, and for phrases like lolly-gagging.
The hatred beneath racism and sexism stems from fear.
I've started responding to it by asking "what are you so afraid of?"
in the hope it might lead to that first small step of self-examination which that person needs to make.
Trev (and many others) are focused on minute detail but forget the BIG THING. Yes, the bit about Maori owning and occupying this entire country before Pakeha "settlers" took it over.
i feel that he does shoot himself in the foot somewhat with his flawed reasoning. I think you can tell him what your reasons are. That way it gives him some static in his echo chamber.
Looks like Trev has got way to much time on his hands sitting in the "airport lounge", must be down on bookings from richipoos..
Wow Nick you certainly poked the racist nest.
Billionaire Iwi ? When the bailout of South Canterbury Finance surpassed the entire "compensation" paid to Maori, when even the annual turnover of Telecom beats it by a country mile...
I'm so sick of this lame arsed fascist racism
Wow just wow, Trev your convoluted diatribe really did my head in. Thanks though for letting me know Te Tiriti was rewritten in 1975 (sarc), talk about a revisionist history writer . Nick you really lit a fuse right there 😁
ive had an experience of trying to discuss issues like this over a period of time with an employer. he was so nice that it took me a while to realise that nothing was being understood except from his extremist individualistic world view. it was like working for Don Brash. they insisted of course that they have love for me as his version of christianity required but could not see that love without respect is patronising. we parted ways because our discussions were becoming more and more heated. i am wary of getting into that sort of situation again. but find hope in this writing. thank you Nick. these people are real and offensive and harmful and a bit brick wall-y. we need to do more challenging. but how? i found a couple of articles yesterday that talk about strategy in the face of strident gibberish. including them here in case anyone else finds them interesting.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/09/a-quick-reminder-of-why-colonialism-was-bad
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve
I read few NZ Hystory books , knew about the killings but at those times they were always doing it. Akaroa was French . I never read about French threatening ...I may need to go back reread : Keith Sinclair books are good. Sorry about your experience: I have a friend like this guy and no amount of facts would convince her Act are neo fascists ...we argue all the time, she threatens to cut me off and I laugh and tell her she is soft and spitting the dummy !
Trev (and many others) are focused on minute detail but forget the BIG THING. Yes, the bit about Maori owning and occupying this entire country before Pakeha "settlers" took it over.