I clean , restock supplies, organise fricken menu ordering, answer a door atleast 50 times on a dayshift and the phone atleast 30 times in 8 hours all the while trying to provide focused and personalised healthcare
The ward is heaving all too often feels unsafe at times due to staffing fte or inadequate a lot more often to provide good care
They call it care rationing….and two of the IT systems that cost lots of money and are supposed to measure the acuity of each inpatient feels to my mind and others, to be great at gas lighting the staff into feeling the frustration of being told they have excess staff capacity hours on the shift while they yet again work through an unpaid meal break.
I have 6 IT systems that I have to use every day all take time to log into, we have new electronic inpatient white boards now that have constantly erred since their being brought in with as the stripped back IT service staff on the phone desk say, was mainly because it was just brought in without any period of IT testing
Apparently it’s supposed to work with the spine system but on the daily a white board that all multi disciplinary staff rely on, is not functioning or showing true or correct data at any time. Health and safety anyone ? Nah that’s an unnecessary back office or useless public service job who needs it ? Pardon my facetiousness but all the stress of it all honestly it makes me want to quit at times and I used to love my job.
I’m so angry at the way this government is decimating the public service and feel for all affected in these uncertain times - the timing no doubt of the first cull of this round will no doubt be just be just before Christmas or in Jan/ Feb when families face the massive costs of rates or rent hikes/ school fees and expenses etc… one term government - vote the bastards out !!!
So true. I worked in health, and was talking to people still in health today, one very important service is being stopped, no reason -just because. And another review of another service that doesn't have a Team leader as no one wants that job as that means they will have to attend endless boring meetings about reviews and other ways of cutting costs.
I have to say thank you to all the public sector health workers in NZ - I have always had excellent care when I have needed it (especially my all too often self-inflicted visits to A&E!). You do a fantastic job, despite what government does to you. I hope you know how much the general public in NZ truly appreciate what you do for us all
Privatisation is the goal - already started with the very generous funding for charter schools, and the cheerful outsourcing of surgery public hospitals cannot manage to private hospitals, which are also very generously rewarded, costing taxpayers more.
That same money could go to support public hospitals instead of stretching them to the limits with understaffing. Burned out staff are then successfully transferred to private hospitals. That is how people at the bottom of the heap find themselves waiting for treatment they desperately need while money is channelled upwards. Only those who have it can afford the services once they’re private, putting an increasing number out in the cold. Why is this acceptable?
New Zealand was once a country that looked after all its people - poverty was rare and hunger unheard of. It is unconscionable that in a land of plenty like New Zealand children should be hungry and cold because of the utter selfishness of the smaller government brigade. The “back pockets” they talk about putting money into via tax cuts are their own!
As someone who has only ever been a Public Servant in Health, Welfare, Health and Safety, and Defence, I just feel sick. I have done so, regardless of better wages elsewhere, as I actually believe in serving the public good.
I have heard all the platitudes and BS about cost cutting before. Yet, I never saw any difference where it was actually needed, or costs cut. Those at the top got huge increases or bonus’, increasing numbers of Contractors came in to fill the voids. Or to fulfil another great cost saving project that either cost more or was never taken up.
Those of us who actually believed in their work and making a difference were disempowered, “bullied”, disillusioned, and made to feel at fault. All, while completing the extra work and being the one wearing it from Managers and client’s alike.
I am just in despair as to how my usual positive, or making the best attitude, balanced with mana enhancing work and strong union values can ‘sell’ this to my team or peers to continue on.
Ditch the Pricks not just in 2026 but forever more. Build Aotearoa to the great country we believe in, while enhancing and building for future generations
I feel the same Jo. I’m retired now, but I was in the Public Service for the majority of my working life. First as a civilian for Defence, and then for a little over three decades with the multi iterations of what became MSD, during which I had to reapply for my job three times.
I get sick and tired of the constant belittling of the work Public servants do, and there are still some who seem to think the old TV series Gliding On was a documentary rather than exaggerated comedy.
The front line Nichola Willis and others always claim won’t be impacted because only the back room jobs are targeted don’t seem to realise those behind the scenes are the engine that runs the car. Without it the front line suffers and so do the public. AI will be of no help in many areas, even if the technology was currently available.
One thing that always gets overlooked is that when a disaster hits, it’s the back room of MSD that swings into action to provide the necessary support to the public and the extra support to the front lines. In the area where I worked our first response was what can our teams do to help? The public and politicians never see the long hours, the work done by front and back office staff when the doors close, or the enormous stress that can come from helping people in some terrible circumstances. I can’t imagine Nichola Willis, the PM, or David Seymour having any interest or ability in anything like that.
I feel for those still in the public service, I know it takes dedication to keep going when the leaders of our country belittles the work they do and then considers them easily expendable when they need to make the books balance because of their poor policies.
The people at the heart of keeping New Zealand Inc. functioning for everyone living here might as well be shadows on the wall to this ghastly government.
I am another ex-public servant and glad I left 4 years ago (although went back for a 9month stint and regretted it!)
Now I do consultancy/contract work and have been lucky enough to have less stress, and also have more time to volunteer on things I really care about.
I have never understood why there are a group of people who just want more and more money, which impoverishes the rest of us - what is so fundamentally broken in their psyche that they think only amassing endless wealth will fix it? As Joseph Keller said once, I have something most billionaires will never have - I have enough
You are right. Yesterday was one hell of a dark day for Aotearoa and our Public Servants who provide critical services to all of us.
Nicola Willis missed the memo that behind all of these job cuts are real people, with a whānau, who have bills to pay and who need to put kai on te tēpu (the table) during a Cost of Living Crisis and a Fuel Crisis. She also failed to get the other memo that these jobs provide valuable support to those on the frontline. If the back don't work, the front won't work either.
What I found absolutely appalling from our Finance Minister yesterday though, was the absolute pleasure she had when she announced all these job cuts that she has dressed up as savings.
I have been coaching the son of a friend, just graduated with his masters. Great student, good person and loves the idea of ‘public service’ and building a strong NZ. Rang him this morning - he has decided there is no future in NZ public service so told his folks last night he’s only applying for jobs in Aus now. We NEED people like him working to build great NZ services, but this government makes it a choice great graduates will not make.
And that is what grosses me out so much Corruption while in parliament for vested interests then hello big $contracts with Oil and Gas industry perhaps 🤔 Jobs for the boys (or the gals that rep like Thatcher)
Sacking 8000 people means more than 8000 are affected, there's their families and the communities that rely on their custom to stay afloat.
The tax system fix is too hard for the lamebrains we have in charge at the moment.
And to add to our country wide distress is the plan of the latest DSS Bill which paves the way for income and asset testing for disabled adults and children. It also narrows the ability of families to get support for their disabled children, and narrows support for disabled adults to be able to live full, independent lives. I know personally that Winz is doing this already.
It was utterly sickening watching Luxon, Willis, Bishop, Seymour et al salivating with joy over this announcement. The denigration, demonising put downs were horrific. Our PM saying the Public Service isn't a make-work scheme! The list of Ministries covered by these cuts is huge and their workers are far from all being based in Wellington or working in offices as they like to portray. My time with the PSA I worked with Aviation Security workers, who are covered by the core public service. I also worked with Food Safety and biosecurity testing workers as part of MPI's work. They were all around the country. It was also aviation security staff who were seconded to MIQ in the middle of COVID. I'm hoping the PSA does a list of jobs that are covered by the core public service, to try to help people understand how vital these services are and what they do. I see Peters was most displeased MFat is included. Betcha he votes for the budget though.
We have collectively conspired to allow these wreckers to carry out EXACTLY what they said they would. And still TPM and The Greens are portrayed as extremists by a situated media. With Peters star rising I believe we're in for three more years of this appalling governance. My impotence to effect change is tempered by a need to quell a growing desire to harm those who seek to crush the lives of others by such draconian measures. These are such nasty people!
Is there no other way to manage the budget than making cuts? Of course there is but she's never going to reform the tax system, remove benefits already and wrongly given to landlords and tobacco companies. It breaks my heart and it's wrong.
Seems like the government have been sold a vision of what AI can do to replace people and automate, with no basis in the actual functionality of the tools. It’s not magic and is wrong 10-20% of the time. Also costs are going to go through the roof when they start charging what it actually costs. Microsoft are putting some plans up by 1500% and it still won’t cover costs.
Jordan Williams is very punchable, yes. Willis is so slappable I have to sit on my hands when I'm watching even the briefest of clips. Random question - why is she always so badly dressed?
I think comments about personal appearance, health, dress sense etc bring out the worst in people, and⁶ the responses become more and more vitriolic. It reminds me what right wing people posted about Jacinda, and it used to make me feel sick. I thought we could do better, but here we are. I find myself tempted to join in with the pile on but now I'm just going to avoid them
Jill, the right wing people were So Much worse with Jacinda & her Family and her child, and it was a constant, battering the threats actually became REAL. It must have been Frightening. I really don't think we knew how gruesome some people were and sadly and unbelievably still are. WE DID NOTHING. coalition of cruelty deserve nothing. I am not going to defend them. I see nothing good in any of them. They are vile and unworthy. And I truly hope , Our Lives Depend on this, that The Greens and Labour win by a huge land slide.
I totally agree about the need to win, because I'm horrified by the decisions that are being made day after day, but I don't think making personal comments helps us towards that goal. To a new reader it might just sound petty and not move them towards a left wing choice. I have no problem with well-informed critique of policies, direction, motivation etc, and think that is more likely to move people in the right (um, left!) direction
Yes, I agree to a point, but it's all about perspective.
We love Jacinda because she is kind and thoughtful and because we agree with her political views. People attacked her because they disagreed with all the above and genuinely thought she was wrecking the country.
The National voters love Nicola because she is strong and ruthless and doing all the things they have wanted for years. They agree with her policies and the way she enforces them. They like her corporate style of dress and way of speaking. They love seeing her stick it to the "lazy poor". And they are just as genuinely passionate about her as we are about Jacinda.
So after thinking about all this, I decided to stop attacking and just concentrate on commenting on policies and decisions. I'm feeling much better about myself when I'm not being mean!
🤔 Won't spend on new clothes until she stops losing weight? Wants to look "Prime Ministerial" & not a frivolous fashionista? Trying to appeal to the NZLast "oldies" with a retro look? Personally, so busy wanting to slap her face that I don't NOTICE her clothing style 🙄😱
I do wish someone would advise her not to wear that garish red lipstick she seems to favour. Her mouth looks like a red slash across her face. Emphasizes her sneering look she seems to adopt constantly.
The first CUT should have been Seymour's Department of Regulation. Higher salaries paid to these Public Servants than any other departments and does nothing useful, only appease Seymour's 'ego.
👍💯 Precisely how you can tell it's not a REAL exercise in reducing waste or superfluous "workers"! I am confident in saying there are a few inflated salaries created by this coalition that no-one would notice being disestablished, as opposed to those who are trying to help the people who are unemployed, disabled, unwell et al - many of whom are only in this situation as a result of this govt policies and CHOICES 😡
It's been decades since I was a public servant sorting mail at my local mail center but this devastating news is surely rinse and repeat for the deluded neo liberal slash the public sector converts. It was 1991 or thereabouts and National was continuing to hock off the family silver ala Roger Douglas. I took the redundancy being offered and in 93 set off on my social work journey with no regrets. I heard the stories of contractors being hired who were former staff because decades of knowledge and skills had walked out the door. I survived and thrived despite several lean years for my young family but we had far more safety nets back then that have since been trashed. Being tossed out of work is a truly scary and horrible experience today and I feel for those affected and their whanau. Tossing the pricks out simply has to happen.
As a frontline health professional clinician,
I clean , restock supplies, organise fricken menu ordering, answer a door atleast 50 times on a dayshift and the phone atleast 30 times in 8 hours all the while trying to provide focused and personalised healthcare
The ward is heaving all too often feels unsafe at times due to staffing fte or inadequate a lot more often to provide good care
They call it care rationing….and two of the IT systems that cost lots of money and are supposed to measure the acuity of each inpatient feels to my mind and others, to be great at gas lighting the staff into feeling the frustration of being told they have excess staff capacity hours on the shift while they yet again work through an unpaid meal break.
I have 6 IT systems that I have to use every day all take time to log into, we have new electronic inpatient white boards now that have constantly erred since their being brought in with as the stripped back IT service staff on the phone desk say, was mainly because it was just brought in without any period of IT testing
Apparently it’s supposed to work with the spine system but on the daily a white board that all multi disciplinary staff rely on, is not functioning or showing true or correct data at any time. Health and safety anyone ? Nah that’s an unnecessary back office or useless public service job who needs it ? Pardon my facetiousness but all the stress of it all honestly it makes me want to quit at times and I used to love my job.
I’m so angry at the way this government is decimating the public service and feel for all affected in these uncertain times - the timing no doubt of the first cull of this round will no doubt be just be just before Christmas or in Jan/ Feb when families face the massive costs of rates or rent hikes/ school fees and expenses etc… one term government - vote the bastards out !!!
Heartbreaking to hear you.
Makes me all more grateful for the wonderful treatment under such difficult circumstances received in a recent hospital session.
And we have just accepted a decrease in our living standards due to the pathetic wage increase offered. Haven't seen any reports on this in the MSM
So true. I worked in health, and was talking to people still in health today, one very important service is being stopped, no reason -just because. And another review of another service that doesn't have a Team leader as no one wants that job as that means they will have to attend endless boring meetings about reviews and other ways of cutting costs.
I have to say thank you to all the public sector health workers in NZ - I have always had excellent care when I have needed it (especially my all too often self-inflicted visits to A&E!). You do a fantastic job, despite what government does to you. I hope you know how much the general public in NZ truly appreciate what you do for us all
😓
Privatisation is the goal - already started with the very generous funding for charter schools, and the cheerful outsourcing of surgery public hospitals cannot manage to private hospitals, which are also very generously rewarded, costing taxpayers more.
That same money could go to support public hospitals instead of stretching them to the limits with understaffing. Burned out staff are then successfully transferred to private hospitals. That is how people at the bottom of the heap find themselves waiting for treatment they desperately need while money is channelled upwards. Only those who have it can afford the services once they’re private, putting an increasing number out in the cold. Why is this acceptable?
New Zealand was once a country that looked after all its people - poverty was rare and hunger unheard of. It is unconscionable that in a land of plenty like New Zealand children should be hungry and cold because of the utter selfishness of the smaller government brigade. The “back pockets” they talk about putting money into via tax cuts are their own!
Yes what did we actually get for the exorbitant amount paid to Lester Levy champion of private health? Money well spent be fk’d.
Beautifully written Frances. I fully agree
Yes, the Neoliberal, fascist, Atlas Network agenda. money, money, to heck with the people.
We had higher tax rates in those halcyon days.
Yes, we were all in it together back then
And when Coalition party is over, where on earth are they all going to go? This is not a rhetorical question.
If they do get another term (g.o.d. help us), they'll leave behind scorched earth and a population with nothing much left to lose.
As someone who has only ever been a Public Servant in Health, Welfare, Health and Safety, and Defence, I just feel sick. I have done so, regardless of better wages elsewhere, as I actually believe in serving the public good.
I have heard all the platitudes and BS about cost cutting before. Yet, I never saw any difference where it was actually needed, or costs cut. Those at the top got huge increases or bonus’, increasing numbers of Contractors came in to fill the voids. Or to fulfil another great cost saving project that either cost more or was never taken up.
Those of us who actually believed in their work and making a difference were disempowered, “bullied”, disillusioned, and made to feel at fault. All, while completing the extra work and being the one wearing it from Managers and client’s alike.
I am just in despair as to how my usual positive, or making the best attitude, balanced with mana enhancing work and strong union values can ‘sell’ this to my team or peers to continue on.
Ditch the Pricks not just in 2026 but forever more. Build Aotearoa to the great country we believe in, while enhancing and building for future generations
Kia kaha te whanau! Kia kaha!
Yep, another ex public service here.
That’s exactly right. More contractors fill the void, who are paid a shit-ton more, but don’t count as FTE’s.
I’m glad I left when I did, but feel for my friends who are living with this nonsense.
I feel the same Jo. I’m retired now, but I was in the Public Service for the majority of my working life. First as a civilian for Defence, and then for a little over three decades with the multi iterations of what became MSD, during which I had to reapply for my job three times.
I get sick and tired of the constant belittling of the work Public servants do, and there are still some who seem to think the old TV series Gliding On was a documentary rather than exaggerated comedy.
The front line Nichola Willis and others always claim won’t be impacted because only the back room jobs are targeted don’t seem to realise those behind the scenes are the engine that runs the car. Without it the front line suffers and so do the public. AI will be of no help in many areas, even if the technology was currently available.
One thing that always gets overlooked is that when a disaster hits, it’s the back room of MSD that swings into action to provide the necessary support to the public and the extra support to the front lines. In the area where I worked our first response was what can our teams do to help? The public and politicians never see the long hours, the work done by front and back office staff when the doors close, or the enormous stress that can come from helping people in some terrible circumstances. I can’t imagine Nichola Willis, the PM, or David Seymour having any interest or ability in anything like that.
I feel for those still in the public service, I know it takes dedication to keep going when the leaders of our country belittles the work they do and then considers them easily expendable when they need to make the books balance because of their poor policies.
Willis (assisted in a big way by Roche) is deliberately taking the ‘service’ out of Public Service. Public Disservants?
So true Jo!
The people at the heart of keeping New Zealand Inc. functioning for everyone living here might as well be shadows on the wall to this ghastly government.
I am another ex-public servant and glad I left 4 years ago (although went back for a 9month stint and regretted it!)
Now I do consultancy/contract work and have been lucky enough to have less stress, and also have more time to volunteer on things I really care about.
I have never understood why there are a group of people who just want more and more money, which impoverishes the rest of us - what is so fundamentally broken in their psyche that they think only amassing endless wealth will fix it? As Joseph Keller said once, I have something most billionaires will never have - I have enough
Tautoko
Mōrena Nick.
You are right. Yesterday was one hell of a dark day for Aotearoa and our Public Servants who provide critical services to all of us.
Nicola Willis missed the memo that behind all of these job cuts are real people, with a whānau, who have bills to pay and who need to put kai on te tēpu (the table) during a Cost of Living Crisis and a Fuel Crisis. She also failed to get the other memo that these jobs provide valuable support to those on the frontline. If the back don't work, the front won't work either.
What I found absolutely appalling from our Finance Minister yesterday though, was the absolute pleasure she had when she announced all these job cuts that she has dressed up as savings.
Have a great day Nick.
Let's vote these vultures out.
I have been coaching the son of a friend, just graduated with his masters. Great student, good person and loves the idea of ‘public service’ and building a strong NZ. Rang him this morning - he has decided there is no future in NZ public service so told his folks last night he’s only applying for jobs in Aus now. We NEED people like him working to build great NZ services, but this government makes it a choice great graduates will not make.
Very sad.
I have no doubt that Nicola will "slide" into another position that pays handsomely when she gets sacked by the voters 😉
And that is what grosses me out so much Corruption while in parliament for vested interests then hello big $contracts with Oil and Gas industry perhaps 🤔 Jobs for the boys (or the gals that rep like Thatcher)
Probably join the firms who lobby the govt. https://theintegrityinstitute.org.nz/interest-groups-research-workstream/
Right on, Nick.
Sacking 8000 people means more than 8000 are affected, there's their families and the communities that rely on their custom to stay afloat.
The tax system fix is too hard for the lamebrains we have in charge at the moment.
And to add to our country wide distress is the plan of the latest DSS Bill which paves the way for income and asset testing for disabled adults and children. It also narrows the ability of families to get support for their disabled children, and narrows support for disabled adults to be able to live full, independent lives. I know personally that Winz is doing this already.
It was utterly sickening watching Luxon, Willis, Bishop, Seymour et al salivating with joy over this announcement. The denigration, demonising put downs were horrific. Our PM saying the Public Service isn't a make-work scheme! The list of Ministries covered by these cuts is huge and their workers are far from all being based in Wellington or working in offices as they like to portray. My time with the PSA I worked with Aviation Security workers, who are covered by the core public service. I also worked with Food Safety and biosecurity testing workers as part of MPI's work. They were all around the country. It was also aviation security staff who were seconded to MIQ in the middle of COVID. I'm hoping the PSA does a list of jobs that are covered by the core public service, to try to help people understand how vital these services are and what they do. I see Peters was most displeased MFat is included. Betcha he votes for the budget though.
We have collectively conspired to allow these wreckers to carry out EXACTLY what they said they would. And still TPM and The Greens are portrayed as extremists by a situated media. With Peters star rising I believe we're in for three more years of this appalling governance. My impotence to effect change is tempered by a need to quell a growing desire to harm those who seek to crush the lives of others by such draconian measures. These are such nasty people!
I wonder how many managers will go slow on redundancy in hope of a change in government?
If they can. Remembering they too are the meat in the bigger sandwich. But I totally hope they can
Yes! That would be sensible 👍
Is there no other way to manage the budget than making cuts? Of course there is but she's never going to reform the tax system, remove benefits already and wrongly given to landlords and tobacco companies. It breaks my heart and it's wrong.
Seems like the government have been sold a vision of what AI can do to replace people and automate, with no basis in the actual functionality of the tools. It’s not magic and is wrong 10-20% of the time. Also costs are going to go through the roof when they start charging what it actually costs. Microsoft are putting some plans up by 1500% and it still won’t cover costs.
Jordan Williams is very punchable, yes. Willis is so slappable I have to sit on my hands when I'm watching even the briefest of clips. Random question - why is she always so badly dressed?
Yesterday, she looked like a 19th-century schoolmistress.
I think comments about personal appearance, health, dress sense etc bring out the worst in people, and⁶ the responses become more and more vitriolic. It reminds me what right wing people posted about Jacinda, and it used to make me feel sick. I thought we could do better, but here we are. I find myself tempted to join in with the pile on but now I'm just going to avoid them
Jill, the right wing people were So Much worse with Jacinda & her Family and her child, and it was a constant, battering the threats actually became REAL. It must have been Frightening. I really don't think we knew how gruesome some people were and sadly and unbelievably still are. WE DID NOTHING. coalition of cruelty deserve nothing. I am not going to defend them. I see nothing good in any of them. They are vile and unworthy. And I truly hope , Our Lives Depend on this, that The Greens and Labour win by a huge land slide.
I totally agree about the need to win, because I'm horrified by the decisions that are being made day after day, but I don't think making personal comments helps us towards that goal. To a new reader it might just sound petty and not move them towards a left wing choice. I have no problem with well-informed critique of policies, direction, motivation etc, and think that is more likely to move people in the right (um, left!) direction
I never usually make personal comments about people but that woman is so gleefully nasty I don't care. Jacinda was her total opposite.
Yes, I agree to a point, but it's all about perspective.
We love Jacinda because she is kind and thoughtful and because we agree with her political views. People attacked her because they disagreed with all the above and genuinely thought she was wrecking the country.
The National voters love Nicola because she is strong and ruthless and doing all the things they have wanted for years. They agree with her policies and the way she enforces them. They like her corporate style of dress and way of speaking. They love seeing her stick it to the "lazy poor". And they are just as genuinely passionate about her as we are about Jacinda.
So after thinking about all this, I decided to stop attacking and just concentrate on commenting on policies and decisions. I'm feeling much better about myself when I'm not being mean!
😂😂😂 She's got that hollowed out look going on like she's part of The Munsters.
🤔 Won't spend on new clothes until she stops losing weight? Wants to look "Prime Ministerial" & not a frivolous fashionista? Trying to appeal to the NZLast "oldies" with a retro look? Personally, so busy wanting to slap her face that I don't NOTICE her clothing style 🙄😱
She has no fashion sense.
I do wish someone would advise her not to wear that garish red lipstick she seems to favour. Her mouth looks like a red slash across her face. Emphasizes her sneering look she seems to adopt constantly.
She will have 2 wardrobes now
Nor any other kind…..
Has no money sense which is more to the point.
The first CUT should have been Seymour's Department of Regulation. Higher salaries paid to these Public Servants than any other departments and does nothing useful, only appease Seymour's 'ego.
👍💯 Precisely how you can tell it's not a REAL exercise in reducing waste or superfluous "workers"! I am confident in saying there are a few inflated salaries created by this coalition that no-one would notice being disestablished, as opposed to those who are trying to help the people who are unemployed, disabled, unwell et al - many of whom are only in this situation as a result of this govt policies and CHOICES 😡
💯 agree 👍
It's been decades since I was a public servant sorting mail at my local mail center but this devastating news is surely rinse and repeat for the deluded neo liberal slash the public sector converts. It was 1991 or thereabouts and National was continuing to hock off the family silver ala Roger Douglas. I took the redundancy being offered and in 93 set off on my social work journey with no regrets. I heard the stories of contractors being hired who were former staff because decades of knowledge and skills had walked out the door. I survived and thrived despite several lean years for my young family but we had far more safety nets back then that have since been trashed. Being tossed out of work is a truly scary and horrible experience today and I feel for those affected and their whanau. Tossing the pricks out simply has to happen.
Tough call on Willis making decisions, dumb or cruel?
I don’t think she has the empathy or understanding to even consider anything but an atlas / right agenda.