Seymour may not self-identify as a fascist but quite a few of the coalition would look right at home in a black uniform riding in a tank running over poor people
I have absolutely no problem with gangs and patches, including the Police and Défense Force, or even sporting bodies but my heart stops when I see the swastika.
It strikes fear in me as people who wear or believe in that, outside of the spiritual realm, believe in absolute pure hatred.
Gangs have nothing on that!
I hope David’s electorate turn on him big time. The bigger the better.
As for Luxon’s new line we are open for conversation - sorry I think he has learnt that from a Spin Doctor who is trying to look like he has some brains.
But really for me, Luxon and Seymour - it’s the Strawman ( no brain) and Pinocchio (puppet who really wants to be a boy)
Get them out as there is no end to their damage and BS covering it
Great comment Jo. I have no problem with gangs or their patches either. I really think all this talk of community intimidation by gangs has been really exaggerated by this govt. The swastika and the one armed saluting is another thing again.......now that is intimidation.
I see a few things going on here. Sleazemor doesn't want swastika or Nazi salutes banned in public, not because he wants the "idiots" to show themselves but because he wants to know there are far right, "right thinking" people who he can trust to back him up whenever he gets accused of inciting racial disharmony across the country.
Luxo will be "up for these conversations" after he judges how great the threat to his "leadership" would be if he took Sleazemor to task over his comments, and the damage caused by them.
Winston will kick back with a glass or two of a vintage single malt and a few cigars, courtesy of the tobacco industry lobbyists, and wait for the walls to come crashing down on the other twos' alliance, so he can ascend the empty throne unopposed.
I'm almost too scared to think about the US election and whatever fallout will be the result of the vote, either way. I've been watching a few Trump v Sanity posts and am staggered at the ignorance and stupidity shown by his supporters. I realise there's a number of Americans who share this Korero and don't mean any insult or offence to you. ( I figure you came here to get away from it all, anyway.) My Dad was a diehard Republican born in Atchison, Kansas, so I have a bit of insight into these matters.
Thanks Nick.....what I know of David Seymour by observing what he says (and doesn't) is that he is 100% weasel (apologies mustelids). His attacks on Māori and Te Tiriti, on the poor (think school lunches for starters) - the pro-gun stance. I think that his move on the Principles of TToW are a precursor to a referendum, which, with the right amount of dis and mis-information, and a costly campaign featuring high-profile NZers he could very well win, leading to complete eradication of Māori rights as we know them...and to me points to a right of right trajectory. I don't know if he is a fascist or not...but he's not stupid, so his remarks about not banning the swastika are deliberate...so I am very concerned that the fascists are just waiting in the wings, masquerading as advisers, lobbyists and members of parliament.
As for the U.S election...holy shit balls! I am with Cindy in feeling like I really have to look after my mental health right now (while also doing what I can, including hopefully getting to Wellington on 19 November!) I am old (ish) now...but I have grandchildren and I''ll be f!@#$d if I'll let these a##holes ruin their future. Folk my age were on the streets against nuclear bombs, apartheid and the foreshore and seabed. We'll be out again! Kia kaha everyone.
As a sort of side issue, during one of Seymour's street corner meetings one of his followers asked how we can "get rid of woke" Government workers. My brain mediately went 2 ways, maybe they already have with all the redundancies, and this is what Trump did last time he was president. Up to 50,000 Government employees find themselves out of a job every time there's a change of Government in the USA. Seymour's response was something like, we do what we can. The numpty then asked "how can we stop people thinking this way?" to which Seymour said "we change the curricula to eliminate this sort of thinking". Then I thought, they're already doing that. I was speechless. So, well on the way to Fascism ☹️
Bloody hell what a scary f f---king ahole I've wondered for a long time if they've done something similar in the US just because of the way some people think but maybe it's a DNA issue 🤔🤔🤔
Many years ago I was teaching in London. One of my colleagues was a concentration camp survivor. One morning she came running out of her classroom, shaking, in tears. One of the kids had drawn a swastika on the blackboard and she just couldn't go in. Of course the child concerned had no idea, but it was hugely affecting for her.
When I was writing, I thought of the story Paul McCartney has told of how a little old man smashed the windows at a record store which was promoting the Beatles' new single - Hey Jude. You can imagine what he thought it was.
A bit of trivia via Stuff, ( for a change) It came through a wee while ago. 😁
I wasn't at all surprised to read that Luxo, arriving at the Dunedin Public Art Gallery for the Class Act Awards, (which obviously had nothing to do with Sleazemor's lot), went in via the back entrance. His working life seemingly involves him kissing as many of these as possible, so he's probably unaware there's another way to make his presence felt. It was no doubt done to avoid any chance of contact or conversation with the few protesting outside about the Dunedin Hospital debacle, so just confirms, yet again what a gutless excuse for a leader or even a decent person he is.
Thank you again Nick. I have posted the YouTube song on my FB because we all need reminding that Fascists are bound to lose. When we organise, when we fight back, when we vote, we win!
In case you're wondering, I said "swastika" 14 times during that newsletter. Forget the symbol - I'm sick of the sight of the word!
Seymour may not self-identify as a fascist but quite a few of the coalition would look right at home in a black uniform riding in a tank running over poor people
He wants to know where the idiots are - look in the mirror, mate.
Between Seymour and Luxon we have an unholy alliance. All normal reactions are reversed. The explanations defy logic. One term Government please.
Actually, maybe he’s onto something. When Act party people wear their badges, we will know where those idiots are too.
It’s their gang insignia
@Jo ^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS
it should be mandatory for anyone who votes ACT to be made to wear a badge so we actually know who these f wits are.
Well written again Nick.
I have absolutely no problem with gangs and patches, including the Police and Défense Force, or even sporting bodies but my heart stops when I see the swastika.
It strikes fear in me as people who wear or believe in that, outside of the spiritual realm, believe in absolute pure hatred.
Gangs have nothing on that!
I hope David’s electorate turn on him big time. The bigger the better.
As for Luxon’s new line we are open for conversation - sorry I think he has learnt that from a Spin Doctor who is trying to look like he has some brains.
But really for me, Luxon and Seymour - it’s the Strawman ( no brain) and Pinocchio (puppet who really wants to be a boy)
Get them out as there is no end to their damage and BS covering it
Great comment Jo. I have no problem with gangs or their patches either. I really think all this talk of community intimidation by gangs has been really exaggerated by this govt. The swastika and the one armed saluting is another thing again.......now that is intimidation.
The problem with gangs isn't their patches, the corporate ones in suits are just as dangerous.
100%correct.
Far more dangerous and damaging impact sadly eh
Wee mental Davey is a dangerous piece of
Great imagery there.!!
Yes indeed
Seymour is being rather self-referential with this whole concept though, isn't he? "knowing who the idiots in society are"
Takes one to know one, Gerard. If ever there was a prime example........
I see a few things going on here. Sleazemor doesn't want swastika or Nazi salutes banned in public, not because he wants the "idiots" to show themselves but because he wants to know there are far right, "right thinking" people who he can trust to back him up whenever he gets accused of inciting racial disharmony across the country.
Luxo will be "up for these conversations" after he judges how great the threat to his "leadership" would be if he took Sleazemor to task over his comments, and the damage caused by them.
Winston will kick back with a glass or two of a vintage single malt and a few cigars, courtesy of the tobacco industry lobbyists, and wait for the walls to come crashing down on the other twos' alliance, so he can ascend the empty throne unopposed.
I'm almost too scared to think about the US election and whatever fallout will be the result of the vote, either way. I've been watching a few Trump v Sanity posts and am staggered at the ignorance and stupidity shown by his supporters. I realise there's a number of Americans who share this Korero and don't mean any insult or offence to you. ( I figure you came here to get away from it all, anyway.) My Dad was a diehard Republican born in Atchison, Kansas, so I have a bit of insight into these matters.
I agree I'm staggered by their stupidity as well & the gullibility it beggars belief.
Thanks Nick.....what I know of David Seymour by observing what he says (and doesn't) is that he is 100% weasel (apologies mustelids). His attacks on Māori and Te Tiriti, on the poor (think school lunches for starters) - the pro-gun stance. I think that his move on the Principles of TToW are a precursor to a referendum, which, with the right amount of dis and mis-information, and a costly campaign featuring high-profile NZers he could very well win, leading to complete eradication of Māori rights as we know them...and to me points to a right of right trajectory. I don't know if he is a fascist or not...but he's not stupid, so his remarks about not banning the swastika are deliberate...so I am very concerned that the fascists are just waiting in the wings, masquerading as advisers, lobbyists and members of parliament.
As for the U.S election...holy shit balls! I am with Cindy in feeling like I really have to look after my mental health right now (while also doing what I can, including hopefully getting to Wellington on 19 November!) I am old (ish) now...but I have grandchildren and I''ll be f!@#$d if I'll let these a##holes ruin their future. Folk my age were on the streets against nuclear bombs, apartheid and the foreshore and seabed. We'll be out again! Kia kaha everyone.
As a sort of side issue, during one of Seymour's street corner meetings one of his followers asked how we can "get rid of woke" Government workers. My brain mediately went 2 ways, maybe they already have with all the redundancies, and this is what Trump did last time he was president. Up to 50,000 Government employees find themselves out of a job every time there's a change of Government in the USA. Seymour's response was something like, we do what we can. The numpty then asked "how can we stop people thinking this way?" to which Seymour said "we change the curricula to eliminate this sort of thinking". Then I thought, they're already doing that. I was speechless. So, well on the way to Fascism ☹️
Bloody hell what a scary f f---king ahole I've wondered for a long time if they've done something similar in the US just because of the way some people think but maybe it's a DNA issue 🤔🤔🤔
Many years ago I was teaching in London. One of my colleagues was a concentration camp survivor. One morning she came running out of her classroom, shaking, in tears. One of the kids had drawn a swastika on the blackboard and she just couldn't go in. Of course the child concerned had no idea, but it was hugely affecting for her.
When I was writing, I thought of the story Paul McCartney has told of how a little old man smashed the windows at a record store which was promoting the Beatles' new single - Hey Jude. You can imagine what he thought it was.
David Seymour's OPINION is dangerously laughable.
Oh here's hoping Seymour's electorate and safe haven of Epsom disappears as a seat for next election.
I would love to be there when it's pulled out from under him. I'd probably buy a ticket for that😁
A bit of trivia via Stuff, ( for a change) It came through a wee while ago. 😁
I wasn't at all surprised to read that Luxo, arriving at the Dunedin Public Art Gallery for the Class Act Awards, (which obviously had nothing to do with Sleazemor's lot), went in via the back entrance. His working life seemingly involves him kissing as many of these as possible, so he's probably unaware there's another way to make his presence felt. It was no doubt done to avoid any chance of contact or conversation with the few protesting outside about the Dunedin Hospital debacle, so just confirms, yet again what a gutless excuse for a leader or even a decent person he is.
Thank you again Nick. I have posted the YouTube song on my FB because we all need reminding that Fascists are bound to lose. When we organise, when we fight back, when we vote, we win!